I can empathize with you. I was in a similar situation a few years back. I applied for reinstatement 6 months after being df'd. My divorce was not final. They wouldn't even consider it. They berated me instead.
It took almost a year AFTER the divorce before they'd accept my plea for reinstatement. It wasn't worth it. If I'd known then what I know now about the org I would've been better off washing my hands of the lot of them and moving on with my life.
Do your research about the org. Read the posts here. Realize that it's a lie and that these people who claim to be family are not worth your time if their loyalties lie with the org, which is most likely the case. And if not, then you'll have them either way. Save yourself the heartache. I wish I had.
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Judical Committee/ Plea for Reinstatement help
by livingalie inhello to all it has been awhile since my last post but i have been lurking .i just wanted to be careful since i have been trying to be reinstated.
to give you a little background in short after i left bethel (1993-1999) in 1999 i got married to a local sister from new york city ( brooklyn).i worked at different jobs but the last job i had was with the city of ny after 9/11 i lost the job .i told my wife about a job down south ,i told her that i would go down try the job out and if it looks like a good fit and it would work out she should move down in a few months .the job was going great things were looking up i told her to moved down but she hated the town said it was to small nothing to do but the great thing about it was that her job was in the town also all she would have to do was just transfer no job hunting at all .
my wife would not move this went on for the next 2 years she said she was coming down then she said she need to finish up something at work .
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Famous lines from the toons? Got any?
by AK - Jeff in.
"phineas j whoopee you're the greatest".
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From "A Charlie Brown Christmas", Linus speaking to Charlie Brown:
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WHAT THE HELL IS THE POINT......???????
by Terry inwhat the hell is the point......?.
1.undeserved kindness.
ask yourself why you don't deserve kindness.
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I'm enjoying this discussion even if I don't understand it all. I sometimes get stuck in all of the language used. For me, this chat brings up the question I grapple with, how can we possibly use the mind to understand the mind? All our perceptions of the world around us come from what our mind concludes them to be. Is there really any "point" but what our own mind creates in any given moment?
There have been studies done where certain brain areas can be stimulated to produce "spiritual experiences". Does that make them real? Seems to me that anything we experience is a product of our very own "three pound universe". What is the purpose in trying to find a "point" or truth within a construct that is so self-limiting?
Not sure that made any sense. Just the ramblings that keep me up at night.
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"I am Completely and Utterly Burnt Out by Believing in this Stuff."
by scout575 in"catholic christianity has caused so many problems for me.
as much as i hate to say it, a lot of damage has been done to me by it.
i have not been able to attend church for a month because i panic there!!!!
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Geesh. That sounds familiar.
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Celine Dion sings kingdom melodies????
by unique1 ini just received an email that read:.
kingdom melody n. 54 sang by celine dion and george benson.
follow together with your sing book... it's beautiful!!!!.
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When this first made the email rounds a few years ago, there was an announcement in the "kingdom ministry" that jw's shouldn't be listening to "unauthorized" versions of the kingdom melodies and should not forward these files on to other witnesses.
Talk about control.
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fibromyalgia or chronic fatigue syndrome
by reneeisorym ini remember when i was in the dubs, there were tons of sisters all with the same set of mild depression and fibromyalgia/chronic fatigue syndrom symptoms.
i wonder if this was related to the hell jws put you through or if it was just something one woman had to have because the other did.
i haven't heard of hardly anyone having it outside of the dubs but in the congregation about 75% of the women had it!
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I was diagnosed with cfs/fm at the age of 17, before the awake article came out. After it was released, a number of cases popped up in the organization. Whether these were legitimate or not, I don't know. All I know is that I'm no longer a jw and I still have these conditions.
From what I know of these illnesses, there is possibly a genetic component, something to do with the mitochondrial dna. Yes, stress may exacerbate symptoms and being a jw is stressful. But so is life in general.
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Self-rightous witnesses? no......
by mariposa ini was thinking about how i left "the truth" yesterday and got to wondering about the couple of sisters who were directly involved in the beginning of the end for me.
i know it was because of things they personally did to me that led me to believe witnesses were not "a lovable brotherhood".
and i know, they know of the things they did as well.. so here's the thing, i bet they don't feel the least bit guilty or even bad about it.
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This thread reminds me of what one "friend" accused me of when I let her know I was leaving the org. She basically said I was allowing myself to be stumbled and that I should get over myself.
This was my reply to her:
Your statement, "As far as I am concerned you have allowed the imperfections of men to influence your decision to a great extent" implies that I have been "stumbled." I feel that this is an unfair and inaccurate conclusion.
As often used by Jehovah's Witnesses, this term "stumbling" implies being irked by the actions of a few imperfect people in the congregation to the demise of one's faith in the organization. There is an undercurrent of blame directed to the one "stumbled" as if their pride just couldn't get over some hurt caused by some person or even a group of people.
This is used to explain in the observer's mind how someone could possibly leave "God's organization" or why any action taken against the person by the congregation would be justified. Granted, I have been through enough in my years "in the truth" to have been "stumbled" out a long time ago yet I was not. In fact it was my firm and wholehearted belief that this was indeed "God's organization" that lead me to stay with it and endure the hardships I suffered and watched others suffer as well.
I wish I could simply say that it was a case of me being "stumbled" in this way, feeling slighted and overcome by pride that has lead me to my decision to disassociate myself from the organization. That would imply that some day I'd be able to "get over myself" and return to the organization. This is not the case.
The study, research and events which lead me to disassociate were not pride-inducing. In fact, they left me feeling incredibly humbled, 'repenting in dust and ashes.' (Job 42:6) For what I've learned has lead me to realize that the organization I followed and wholeheartedly supported virtually my whole life was not "God's channel." To admit that to myself meant taking responsibility for having believed false doctrine and preached it to others, giving over my conscience and mental faculties to men, and often exchanging good common sense based on Bible principles for the maintenance of the Society's status quo. Rather than feel a sense of pride, I felt shame and a deep sense of regret."
Of course, I got no reply. This was one of my best jw friends of 25 years.
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I could sure use some kind words today.
by Abandoned inhey guys.
i've had a pretty tough day today and i'd sure appreciate some good vibes and words of encouragment.. thanks..
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Hugs to you friend. Sending you love and light.
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Life Update
by KW13 inwell a few things really have happened recently.
i have a saturday & sunday job!
its hard work and the pay isn't brilliant but i am proud of myself for doing it, i never realised how much the society had affected how i was with others until two days of work and i am happy to say i am sorting myself out properly.. .
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Good to see ya. I was wondering how you were doin'.
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What are your favourite free computer apps? Media Players, Office ...
by kwintestal ini just got a new computer and am setting it up and wondering what suggestions/reviews anyone can give for computer applications other then the traditional microsoft ones that come with the computer.
i have a ton more ram now (going from 256 to 2gb) and can do a few more things then i could before (like something other then running the os).. has anyone tried the openoffice.org suite?
i'd also like a media player other then windows media player, any suggestions?
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tall penguin
Hi Kwin!
I've used the open office suite and liked it. I also think Mozilla Firefox is a great web browser.
Have fun,
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